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Dit is toch een punt waarop veel nieuws te vinden is in de rand van gaming en misschien dan ook handig om het nieuws te volgen. Vandaag was een drukke dag op dat gebied, Paramount stapte over naar HD-DVD exclusief en ze hebben direct een 'Blu-Ray is beter' gekregen van hun twee belangrijkste mensen. Ondertussen is ook duidelijk geworden waarom Paramount heeft gekozen voor HD-DVD.
| Citaat: | | The director behind such films as 'Bad Boys', 'Pearl Harbor', and the recent 'Transformers' movie is upset by Paramount's decision to drop support for Blu-ray. On a post on his personal web forum entitled, "Paramount pisses me off!", Michael Bay says, "I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!" |
| Citaat: | A noticeable stipulation in the Paramount deal yesterday was that films directed by Steven Spielberg would not be HD DVD exclusive, and could be distributed on either or both formats. At the time, it was not apparent if this meant the famous director was a fan of Blu-ray, but clarification received by High Def Digest suggests that the only Spielberg film coming out in high definition will be the recently announced 'Encounters of the Third Kind' and only on Blu-ray.
The drama started earlier this year when the HD DVD promo group listed a few high profile Spielberg titles as "coming soon" to the format. Shortly there after, the group was forced to issue a public apology to Mr. Spielberg, and retracted the titles from the release schedule. Apparently, he was contacted before the decision was made to release his movies in high definition.
Over the last few months, things have been heating up at the Spielberg camp. News from inside sources indicated that Spielberg was unhappy with Paramount for taking credit on Dreamworks films and for their firing of longtime friend Tom Cruise. There was some discussion that Spielberg would leave Paramount, taking his property with him.
Then, two Spielberg properties were announced for high definition release: 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' via Sony and 'Poltergeist' via Warner. CE3K was completely approved by Spielberg and includes a brand new introduction by the director. 'Poltergeist' was canceled.
After the Paramount announcement, High Def Digest contacted long-time Spielberg spokesman Marvin Levy regarding the announcement. He said the following:
"It was important to Steven that if any of his films were to be released [first] on high-definition, that it would be a classic. Steven is big supporter of Blu-ray, and chose 'Close Encounters' to be the first of his films on either format."
He also confirmed that CE3K was the only Spielberg movie in the high definition pipeline, and the only Spielberg film which would be released in high definition this year. While Spielberg has yet to issue the same war cry as Michael Bay did earlier today, from his choices with regards to high definition releases clearly show him favoring Blu-ray. |
| Citaat: | | The IGN Play B3yond podcast it was stated right at 7 minutes 15 seconds that Universal studios is reconsidering their stance on HD DVD and are considering going Blu-ray. |
| Citaat: | | The NY Times has confirmed via two Viacom executives, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, that Paramount has received a $150M pay-off to support HD DVD exclusively for a period of 18 months. The $150M is comprised of cash and future marketing deals. Also re-confirmed is that the deal includes no films directed by Steven Spielberg. |
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ik had het vanmorgen gelezen ,het is een klap in het gezicht van Sony.
Maar Paramount krijgt 150Miljoen dollar.
En het contract is maar voor 18 maanden dus.
Ook is het leuk dat Steven Spielberg films wel naar blu-ray komen (oprichter van dreamworks)
En dat universal naar blu-ray overstapt
En Mickeal Bay is niet de enige binnen Paramount die kwaad erom is 
edit:Steven
Spielberg heeft gezegd dat hij het ook vervelend vind.
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| Dat is een harde klap, maar wel een logische zet van de HD-DVD kant. Ze moeten toch iets doen om het tij te keren. Nu maar hopen dat Blu-Ray ook mooie exclusives krijgt, anders zou deze zet wel eens doorslaggevend kunnen zijn, of in ieder geval veel goed maken voor HD-DVD. |
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| Devilly schreef: | | Dat is een harde klap, maar wel een logische zet van de HD-DVD kant. Ze moeten toch iets doen om het tij te keren. Nu maar hopen dat Blu-Ray ook mooie exclusives krijgt, anders zou deze zet wel eens doorslaggevend kunnen zijn, of in ieder geval veel goed maken voor HD-DVD. |
Sony (Spider-Man), Fox en Disney (Pirates of the Caribbean) zijn nog altijd exclusief |
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| Citaat: | Blu-ray Disc has gained a large amount of support in the corporate world,[33] with companies such as Apple Inc., Dell, and Panasonic supporting it. Blu-ray Disc was first developed by Sony Corporation in 2002[34] as a next generation data and video storage format alternative to DVD.
Currently, Blu-ray Disc is exclusively supported by Sony Pictures Entertainment and MGM (both owned by Sony) as well as Disney, 20th Century Fox, and Lionsgate. It is non-exclusively supported by Warner Bros. and New Line Cinema. Several members of the Blu-ray organization's Board of Directors, such as Hewlett-Packard, Samsung, and LG, pledged support to Blu-ray Disc, and later, also supported HD DVD.
In a recent interview with GameSpot, when quizzed on the new LG HD DVD/Blu-ray Disc combo players, Sir Howard Stringer, CEO of Sony, had this to say:
It's an expensive way of showing Universal discs. The three biggest box-office winners of this year were, in order: Sony, Disney, and Fox. Those are the three Blu-ray players. When you consider that those three successful studios will be delivering last year's successful box office in home video this year, then that's an enormous advantage. The fourth is Warner, and they release in both formats, so it doesn't hurt. If you are going to be buying discs, you are going to be buying an awful lot of Blu-ray discs going forward—if you want Pirates of the Caribbean or James Bond or Da Vinci Code or Spider-Man. Universal is the only one with HD DVD. I don't feel terribly intimidated.
Beginning July 2007, Blockbuster Video, one of the largest chain of DVD and video game rental stores in the world, will be carrying only Blu-ray Discs in 1,450 more stores,[35] in addition to the original 250 that carried both HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc. Online they will still be offering both formats.[36] Blockbuster will continue to offer both formats at its initial 250 stores that currently carry both high-definition formats.[37]
On July 25, 2007, Target Corporation announced they will carry Sony Blu-ray Disc stand alone players in their stores and promote them with end cap displays including exclusive Blu-ray Disc movies from Sony and Walt Disney. While Target will not carry HD DVD stand alone players on its shelves, the chain will continue to sell both Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD movies in all stores and HD DVD players online.[38]
On August 20, 2007, Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures and DreamWorks Animation, announced they were no longer distributing movies on both Blu-ray and HD DVD. They announced exclusive support for the HD DVD format citing cost benefits to both the consumer due to the lower equipment price as well as the studios lower costs in releasing the films on HD DVD. Paramount (with its subsidiary DreamWorks) is the current 2007 box office leader.[39][40] Movies directed by Steven Spielberg are not included in this announcement as Spielberg controls his films. [41] The NY Times has confirmed via two Viacom executives, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, that Paramount will receive $150 million in financial incentives to support HD DVD exclusively for a period of 18 months.[42] |
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Ik zie het toch nog redelijk positief in voor Blu-Ray. Mijn voorkeur gaat voorlopig nog steeds naar dat platform uit (afgaande op de films die op beide platformen uitkomen). En de 'steun'/voorkeur van Spielberg voor BR is natuurlijk ook erg mooi meegenomen (die man heeft me toch een paar heilige films gemaakt  ).
Hierbij moet ik wel even vermelden dat ik nog even lekker bij de DVD blijf. Daar komt nog steeds het meeste op uit en het kwaliteitsverschil is voor mij geen reden om, nu al, over te stappen. |
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| Citaat: | Spielberg Feeling Blu Too
Posted August 21, 2007 by Josh
A noticeable stipulation in the Paramount deal yesterday was that films directed by Steven Spielberg would not be HD DVD exclusive, and could be distributed on either or both formats. At the time, it was not apparent if this meant the famous director was a fan of Blu-ray, but clarification received by High Def Digest suggests that the only Spielberg film coming out in high definition will be the recently announced 'Encounters of the Third Kind' and only on Blu-ray.
The drama started earlier this year when the HD DVD promo group listed a few high profile Spielberg titles as "coming soon" to the format. Shortly there after, the group was forced to issue a public apology to Mr. Spielberg, and retracted the titles from the release schedule. Apparently, he was contacted before the decision was made to release his movies in high definition.
Over the last few months, things have been heating up at the Spielberg camp. News from inside sources indicated that Spielberg was unhappy with Paramount for taking credit on Dreamworks films and for their firing of longtime friend Tom Cruise. There was some discussion that Spielberg would leave Paramount, taking his property with him.
Then, two Spielberg properties were announced for high definition release: 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' via Sony and 'Poltergeist' via Warner. CE3K was completely approved by Spielberg and includes a brand new introduction by the director. 'Poltergeist' was canceled.
After the Paramount announcement, High Def Digest contacted long-time Spielberg spokesman Marvin Levy regarding the announcement. He said the following:
"It was important to Steven that if any of his films were to be released [first] on high-definition, that it would be a classic. Steven is big supporter of Blu-ray, and chose 'Close Encounters' to be the first of his films on either format."
He also confirmed that CE3K was the only Spielberg movie in the high definition pipeline, and the only Spielberg film which would be released in high definition this year. While Spielberg has yet to issue the same war cry as Michael Bay did earlier today, from his choices with regards to high definition releases clearly show him favoring Blu-ray. |
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Blu-ray camp fires back at latest HD DVD announcements
Ah, the emails and voice mails were flying fast and furious yesterday after Paramount and DreamWorks made their little announcement about going HD DVD exclusive. At just after 4 p.m. in New York, Fox and MGM put out a press release saying they were unveiling "an aggressive global Blu-ray Disc release strategy, including 29 new release and 'must-have' catalog titles that runs through the end of the 2007 calendar year."
The release went on to say that Fox intends to put out "at least one state-of-the-art title per month featuring numerous BD 'firsts'" and highlighted the fact that "Blu-ray was out-performing HD DVD 2-to-1 at retail in 2007." Among the 29 new releases, my eye was drawn to Master & Commander, Ronin, Cast Away, Independence Day, A Bridge Too Far, 28 Days Later, The Day After Tomorrow, and the Die Hard trilogy.
After the email went out, the phone started ringing: All the CNET the home-theater editors were contacted, so the PR folks at GCI Group in LA were working overtime, trying to do a little damage control. The basic message was, they may have this, but we have a whole more of that. And, did you hear that the Paramount deal doesn't include any of Spielberg's movies and that the deal only ran for 18 months? Tit for tat. Tat for tit. The war was raging.
Then, thanks to a New York Times article, word got out this morning that indeed (as I suspected), someone was getting paid off. The article noted that, "Paramount and DreamWorks Animation together will receive about $150 million in financial incentives for their commitment to HD DVD, according to two Viacom executives with knowledge of the deal but who asked not to be identified." Microsoft denied paying anything, but wouldn't rule it out as a tactic in the future. There was no word on who might be paying Universal for its exclusive HD DVD agreement, but you gotta think there's a pretty sweet deal in place there, too.
The end result? Most people seemed either amused or pissed. The media came across a little cranky about what looks increasingly like a protracted battle. "So Far, Consumers Lose In Battle Between Blu-Ray, HD DVD," was the headline for a story that's running today on NY1, courtesy of Tech Beat reporter Adam Balkin. Yesterday, Balkin came to my office and interviewed me on camera. He must have got about a dozen sound bites. The one he went with happens to sum up my opinion of the current status of the war pretty well:
"The problem right now is that you're almost going to have to pick your format by the studios you like," I said. "The impact may ultimately be that people just don't buy any of the next-gen players. 'Shrek' is going to look pretty good on DVD, so you just buy the DVD and call it a day." |
| Citaat: | Exclusive Interview: Spielberg is "Certainly A Supporter Of Blu-ray...
Earlier today, Steven Spielberg's spokesperson and current member of the Board of Governors of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, Marvin Levy, was kind enough to speak to Blu-ray.com regarding Paramount's recent decision to exclusively back the HD DVD format and Mr. Spielberg's future involvement with high definition media. Mr. Levy did confirm for us that Mr. Spielberg is "certainly a supporter of Blu-ray" and communicated the Spielberg camp's excitement over the upcoming release of 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind', exclusively on Blu-ray.
In speaking with the technical team behind the release, Mr. Levy confirmed that 'Close Encounters' "looks absolutely great" and will feature, "a new interview for this piece looking back and looking currently at Close Encounters and how Steven feels about the film today."
When asked about the apparent cancellation of the HD release of 'Poltergeist', Mr. Levy responded: "Frankly, that's news to me" and that the Spielberg team had been "looking at materials" for the release.
Mr. Levy made it very clear the Mr. Spielberg's production efforts for Paramount and Dreamworks (including 'Transformers') will be HD DVD exclusive for the time being. Mr. Spielberg's neutral stance in HD media only applies to works that he has directed. |
| Citaat: | Blu-ray Responds to the Paramount/DreamWorks Shift
Apparently, their format is bigger than yours.
by IGN DVD
August 21, 2007 - The Blu-ray Disc Association released a formal statement yesterday in response to the recent announcement that both Paramount and DreamWorks Animation have opted into the camp of HD DVD. Numbers and facts and figures -- which can be read in any number of ways by any number of people -- were tossed around lightly.
Of the move to HD DVD, Chairman of the Blu-ray Disc Association U.S. Promotions Committee Andy Parsons stated:
"The decision seems oddly timed given Blu-ray's tremendous momentum both with consumers and with retail. Blu-ray title sales continue to outpace HD DVD sales by nearly a 2 to 1 margin, and major retailers have expressed a strong preference for Blu-ray. Moreover, the price delta between HD DVD and Blu-ray players has been greatly reduced in the past few months, a trend that is on its way to eliminating any perceived cost advantage the HD DVD format has claimed to have. Under these circumstances, we can only imagine what could have enticed Paramount to walk away from a format that is clearly selling significantly more software than the HD DVD format."
Following the statement, the Association presented a number of Blu-ray facts which they believe justify the format as the prevailing method for viewing high-def DVDs:
Blu-ray titles have consistently outsold HD DVD by a ratio of two to one since January of this year. Consumer preferences for BD have been especially clear with day-and-date releases on both formats like The Departed and 300.
Blu-ray has sold 1.6 million discs so far this calendar year, whereas HD DVD has sold 795K.
In June, Blockbuster decided to support only Blu-ray discs at the vast majority (85%) of its retail stores due to actual consumer rental patterns that showed a clear preference for BD.
In July, Target announced their plan to sell only a Blu-ray set-top player in retail stores, and not sell any HD DVD set top models through this holiday season.
Also in July, BJ's Wholesale Club, a significant retailer in the Northeast region, has decided to sell only Blu-ray products.
The price delta between HD DVD and Blu-ray players has been greatly reduced in the past few months, a trend that is on its way to eliminate any perceived cost advantage the HD DVD format has claimed to have. Sony also lowered the price of the PS3 console to $499, resulting in a Sony-claimed 135% increase in sales.
Major blockbuster titles have been announced by Disney and Sony Pictures, including Disney/Pixar's Cars, Ratatouille and Finding Nemo, Pirates 3, Spiderman 1, 2 and 3. These should have a very significant impact on consumer adoption of Blu-ray.
It took 10 months for Blu-ray to achieve 1 million disc sales, but only 3 months to achieve 2 million. Market momentum is clearly accelerating. |
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| Hoeveel kost de goedkoopste Blu-rayspeler eigenlijk? |
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| im2duvi schreef: | | Hoeveel kost de goedkoopste Blu-rayspeler eigenlijk? |
Volgens mij is dat nog steeds de PS3 en daarvan ken je de prijs denk ik wel.  |
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| Devilly schreef: | | im2duvi schreef: | | Hoeveel kost de goedkoopste Blu-rayspeler eigenlijk? |
Volgens mij is dat nog steeds de PS3 en daarvan ken je de prijs denk ik wel. |
Nope, Sony heeft bijv recentelijk goedkopere BD spelers geïntroduceerd. |
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| Citaat: | | Time Warner Inc's Warner Bros studio on Friday said it would exclusively release high-definition DVDs in Sony Corp's Blu-ray format, dealing a big blow to Toshiba Corp's rival HD DVD technology. Warner Bros Chairman and Chief Executive Barry Meyer said in a statement, "The window of opportunity for high-definition DVD could be missed if format confusion continues to linger. We believe that exclusively distributing in Blu-ray will further the potential for mass market success and ultimately benefit retailers, producers, and most importantly, consumers." |
| Citaat: | | "While Warner's decision is a setback for HD DVD, the consumer has benefited from HD DVD's commitment to quality and affordability -- a bar that is critical for the mainstream success of any format. We believe widespread adoption of a next generation format will ultimately be determined by the consumer." |
| Citaat: | | Toshiba is quite surprised by Warner Bros.' decision to abandon HD DVD in favor of Blu-ray, despite the fact that there are various contracts in place between our companies concerning the support of HD DVD. As central members of the DVD Forum, we have long maintained a close partnership with Warner Bros. We worked closely together to help standardize the first-generation DVD format as well as to define and shape HD DVD as its next-generation successor. |
| Citaat: | | In a nutshell, said Tsujihara that WB had been "monitoring the [high-def] situation closely" and felt it was time to pick a side. The big problem? "Consumer confusion was beginning to happen even with standard-definition DVD," he said. "Both formats were having an impact that caused consumers to say, let's wait a bit to buy anything, even a standard-definition DVD. We were starting to see the worst of all worlds: No one was buying high-def and not buying standard-def either." |
| Citaat: | | Hollywood must be breathing a huge sigh of relief. All of Hollywood needs a format to win, and fast. This is bad news for Microsoft and Toshiba, the two main proponents of the HD-DVD format. At this point there's no way for HD DVD to make a comeback. The question now becomes, how quickly will Universal and Paramount/DreamWorks start distributing in Blu-Ray? |
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Het is dus eigenlijk bijna officieel afgelopen voor HD-DVD? Want kan Toshiba eigenlijk nu nog iets doen als laatste wanhoopspoging?
Het lag iig wel in de lijn v/d verwachting als je naar het gemiddelde winkelrek kijkt. |
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| 't is het best voor de consument zo. Mooi klote voor Toshiba, maarja: wie zaken doet in die industrie neemt risico's en dan loopt et wel eens mis. Eind 2008 een enkel formaat en dat is Bluray: ik vind het prima. Misschien dat ik de overstap zelfs nog maak van DVD naar Bluray, maar het zal nog wel even duren. |
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Eigenlijk als je erover nadenkt had het helemaal anders kunnen lopen. Als in de 360 standaard een HD-DVD speler had gezeten zoals bij de PS3 een Blu-Ray speler, dan zou je 16 miljoen extra klanten hebben gehad en had HD-DVD hoogstwaarschijnlijk gewonnen.
Iedereen zit dan wel op Sony te klagen voor die Blu-Ray speler in de PS3, maar door die gewaagde zet wint blu-ray wel. |
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| Ik ben wel heel benieuwd of het HD-DVD kamp nog met een poging komt om de overwinning te behalen, of dat men het hierbij laat. |
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| Als de 360 een HD-DVD drive had, had ik hem wsl ook niet gekocht |
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| Citaat: | | Well another studio down. Maybe I was right? Blu ray is just better. HD will die a slow death. It's what I predicted a year ago. Now with Warner's down for the count with Blu Ray. That makes it easier for Wal-Mart to push Blu Ray. And whatever Wal-Mart pushes - wins. Hd better start giving out those $120 million dollars checks to stay alive. Maybe they can give me some so I can give it to my Make-A-Wish charity, just to shut me up. Have faith people Transformers will come out in Blu-ray one day! |
| Citaat: | | According to a trusted source that was close to the negotiations, Warner and FOX were working on a deal to go Exclusive to HD DVD as recent as last week. Our source tells us that Warner was only willing to go to HD DVD if FOX would go with them. Their thinking was if they just went to HD DVD by themselves, it would not end the format war. Early this week FOX was paid an undisclosed amount to remain exclusive to Blu-ray. With the FOX deal falling through, Warner had no choice but to accept the BDA’s $500 Million offer to go Blu-ray exclusive. We do wonder if FOX was just playing the HD DVD side, while having no intentions of ever switching. |
| Citaat: | | Variety is reporting that Warner sister company New Line has confirmed that it too plans to shift to Blu-ray exclusivity. (Onderstaande pic is dus verouderd) |
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Maar waarom zou je als filmmaatschappij exclusief ontwikkelen voor maar één medium, als voor beide gaat verdien je toch meer?
iig Blu-Ray is gewonnen als je kijkt naar onderstaande grafiek.
Nu staat Paramount er wel met hun exclusiviteitscontract  |
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| Of juist niet. Als ze merken dat HD-DVD tegenover Blu-ray véél minder verkoopt is het toch logisch dat ze maar voor één medium gaan. Als filmmaatschappijen zouden blijven ontwikkelen voor HD-DVD die weinig verkoopt zouden ze op termijn toch alleen maar verlies maken. |
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| Michaël_ schreef: | | Maar waarom zou je als filmmaatschappij exclusief ontwikkelen voor maar één medium, als voor beide gaat verdien je toch meer? |
Nope, je verdient juist minder. Dit is niet hetzelfde als de consolewereld, waar de consoles naast elkaar kunnen bestaan. HD-DVD en Blu-Ray kunnen niet doorbreken zolang het andere bestaat, terwijl DVD achteruitgaat omdat HD-DVD en Blu-Ray bestaan en mensen minder willen investeren. |
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blu ray heeft wel beter beeld kwaliteit ook al is het verschil minimaal  |
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| sony is wel de grote meester op het gebiek van blu-ray op dit moment hea, sinds ze zo goedkoop aan de spullen kunnnen komen wegens massaproductie van de ps3 |
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New Line Cinema gaat nu ook blu-ray exclusief, wss zal Universal wel snel volgen.
Paramount wss niet door hun exclusiviteitscontract. iig ik geef HD-DVD na vandaag nog 2maanden |
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